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    We already have a process in place to deal with non paying users. First we send reminders, keep a check on their account, and if we see a pattern of problems, their accounts can be suspended. As noted in the comment below, admin or other operational problems can sometimes cause delays too. You can always submit a problem report if you’ve already tried to message the user.

    JJ COOP commented  · 

    I know rules are rules.... but I think you're in a rude awakening if you ever enter the 'real' world of business. Many people won't pay invoices for weeks at a time...

    There could be a variety of reasons a post can't be realistically paid in 5 days - having to get it signed off by a client who is slow to respond, over spending on their Paypal and needing to get more money into it, etc.

    If someone has a lot of positive feedbacks already and they're late paying then all you can do really is wait - removing the post is just making the situation worse as now they'll be looking at not paying at all, or doing a charge back if they paid in the mean time.

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    25 comments  ·  Bloggers » Publishing posts  ·  Flag idea as inappropriate…  ·  Admin →
    JJ COOP commented  · 

    Andrei I am sorry but you are completely clueless as to what publishers actually want here. Nobody is interested in buying nofollow posts in bulk - if they were, they would be adding them with nofollow already added. They're not doing that, are they?

    Quality of post has relatively little to do with how much traffic it'll send - a far more important factor is the strength of the blog its being posted on. Strong blog = likely that the content will rank for something in Google.

    For smaller blogs... the only thing they have to offer is the fact there is links in the post. Its not likely to rank for much/anything.

    Then when you go out of country the effect is even greater - I might be able to produce a brilliant piece of content and have it published on a USA or Canadian targeted blog. Yet I'm trying to sell something to UK consumers... at best all they can offer me is curiosity clickers who simply can't buy. They are worthless to me, and likely most other UK/other country bloggers.

    I don't think you understand how little value there is in what you're selling (or proposing to sell)...

    JJ COOP commented  · 

    You're getting nofollow/removal requests from advertisers who've either been penalised already, or are trying to avoid penalty due to poor seo practices on their part in the past.

    NOBODY is going to want to actively pay money to build nofollow links here. You might be able to point to one single blog post that worked from a traffic point of view... but the reality is that is the exception not the normal. Most guest posts don't rank for anything of value, and don't ever send any traffic of value.

    JJ COOP commented  · 

    But you want to have your cake and eat it - you want us to pay you money, and you provide nothing of value as you don't want to take the risk.

    You can't have it both ways. You need to choose no money and no risk and press logout... or money and risk and start bidding on posts. Its easy enough to manage risk - insist on no spammy anchor texts, only link to on topic stuff, and just generally don't bid on stuff you don't like the look of.

    JJ COOP commented  · 

    Sorry Andrei but this idea is not viable.

    If you don't want to bid on jobs with dofollow links on them, then that is your choice. But if we (as publishers) upload content with proper links in them, then we expect publishers to keep that as we wanted.

    If publishers were just allowed to nofollow whatever they felt like... Postjoint would become worthless overnight as every single advertiser would be off.

    JJ COOP commented  · 

    Sorry Andrei but this idea is not viable.

    If you don't want to bid on jobs with dofollow links on them, then that is your choice. But if we (as publishers) upload content with proper links in them, then we expect publishers to keep that as we wanted.

    If publishers were just allowed to nofollow whatever they felt like... Postjoint would become worthless overnight as every single advertiser would be off.

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    2 comments  ·  General » Feedback  ·  Flag idea as inappropriate…  ·  Admin →
    JJ COOP commented  · 

    I don't understand what the problem is... if you don't like the content a user is uploading either block them for appearing for you, or if its really that bad report it.

    How can more jobs to choose to bid or not be anything other than a good thing?

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    JJ COOP commented  · 

    Also if you done something like the 2nd method, it would be good to see a dollar amount of say the average of their last 5 bid amounts. If I've got a $30 budget and they're asking for $150-200... there is absolutely no point in me allowing them to see who I'm link building for.

    JJ COOP commented  · 

    This would potentially cause some major problems... to the point where there is projects I'd like to use Postjoint for, but couldn't.

    In the past Google didn't have any major problem with guest posting... so it was no big deal to have my url reasonably public (i.e. anyone with a post joint Blogger account could see it). Plus it was just one of 5-6 links in an article - even if anyone cared, nobody could say which of the links was the 'real' one and which were just in there 100% naturally to make it a useful article.

    But if the system is turned around and we're writing content to suit the accepted offer... we could only realistically list the one single link we knew was going to be in there - the rest would have to be chosen after offer was accepted as they'd be chosen to fit in with the topic.

    This to me is too much of a risk with the current setup of anyone with a blogger account being able to browse / save / store / do want they want with lists of publishers. imo this isn’t a fair spread of the risk of having to expose data - the blogs bidding on the job don’t need to show to anyone other than the jobs they directly bid on… but the advertisers are having to show it to absolutely everyone. I emailed you about transactions that took place that I had zero direct input in… but I had info on them as I had a publisher account and was pretty much just being nosy and looking around in there.

    To a publisher, is there really that much difference between seeing:

    “I’ll link to http://www.BigJoesInjuryClaims.info using the anchor Check big joes site out"

    and:

    “I’ll link out to a high street solicitor based in North England - a legitimate business who have been established since the 80’s and been online since 2001. I will use a brand anchor, or a click here if you prefer”

    If that isn’t acceptable, then there are a couple of options that would help and remove the need to display the advertiser url to absolutely everyone.

    The first idea is you let us do it like above, with a description of the link rather than the link itself. Someone can bid on the job and it then displays the url. They can then immediately retract their bid if they like. But they would need to be limited in the number of retractions they could make, otherwise its just the same as having the url on display for everyone to begin with.

    My other idea would be to let us list jobs with a description of the url again. Then let potential bidders click a “I’m potentially interested in this job, let me see the url” button. They would then need to provide the url of the blog they want to publish it on - but this would be private and only shown to the advertiser, not everyone else. I could then decide whether to let them see the url or not. If their blog isn’t a good fit then I already know I’m not going to accept a bid from them, so there is no reason for me to take the risk of letting them see the url.

    I think however any changes are processed… keeping peoples url’s more private than they are currently needs to be a major concern.

    JJ COOP commented  · 

    Google have said stop guest posting in bulk - I think at this point you need to accept you're not within Googles terms no matter what you do, and proceed on that basis (ie making sure bloggers don't get to see url's until deals are actually agreed). I no longer really want to show every single blogger my url's I'll be linking to. I just want to say "I'll link to a manchester solicitors site & a handful of other links to keep the post being useful for users"

    There is no way a marketplace for posts with links in them is EVER going to be within Googles guidelines from this point onwards surely?

    From a personal point of view I'd love to see anchors seriously restricted... but how are you going to realistically do that? We can all download spreadsheets of sites we've blogged on. Some people will be able to download that number x5 (if they saved all their bidding sites too).

    If you ban anchor text links... people will just hit up all those blogs directly and the end result is the same - I'm sourcing links through PJ and ending up sharing a spot with posts with crap anchor text spam. Its not going to matter to me how it got there... just that its there.

    I'll email you in a second about some anchor text bits... something re someone elses site that wouldn't be fair to post here.

    JJ COOP commented  · 

    I think 2) would be very very hard to implement in a way that worked in bulk. You might get the occasional post that drives real traffic customers... but they'll be the exception.

    The blogs readers are all completely random - anyone clicking through is just a curiosity clickers. Then you add in they’re american blogs, you can only legally sell the product in UK, or it requires a credit check, or its 50kg and £10 and you couldn’t ship it anywhere else… its near impossible to get qualified traffic from them. Plus a blog post falls off their front page and won’t realistically send any more traffic (bear in mind if you add 4 other links to the post to make it look/read better, you’ve just thrown away 80% of the traffic that did click out of the article). From an seo angle… the link benefits you for months/years after placement. Honestly, I think 90%+ of people using the system are doing it for those reasons, rather than traffic and there is no way around that at all.

    Letting us create briefs for bloggers to bid on would be a good one - perhaps letting way more than 5 people bid on it, let us accept multiple bids, and schedule them through a month or whatever? Most people are going to need to schedule them anyway, to have time to get everything written (if we were writing them rather than the blog owner).

    Other publishers will be along in a minute to hate on my next idea I’m sure… but imo anchor text links need reigning in, big time. How about no more than 10% of posts having a commercial link with an anchor text link in it. With the other 90% having to be brand, url, click here etc, or random long tails. Some people are, to speak frankly, taking the piss with anchor text links and it continues to paint a huge target on the back of this type of link building in general. I’m not sure if you could do this though - it might just mean people bypassing the system and dealing direct to get their chosen anchors.

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    JJ COOP commented  · 

    Having a moderator score based on something is useless long term - too many blogs are going to score highly when they get in then just start posting crap all over the place... the scores will no longer be valid and it will be counter productive to even have them listed in the first place.

    Comments on your own posts are far too easy to fake.

    % of guest posts would be good... but with more and more people putting links in content and not mentioning its even a guest post at all... I don't see how you could do this.

    I don't really think there are any more stats that are both automated, and useful. I think we're stuck working with PR/DA really. Number of linking domains would be great but I asked for that already and was told no.

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    3 comments  ·  Bloggers » Adding / editing blogs  ·  Flag idea as inappropriate…  ·  Admin →
    JJ COOP commented  · 

    imo (as a publisher adding a reasonable volume of posts to the system) I wouldn't have any problem adding posts to that blog as long as the price was right - there is certainly a lot of worse blogs currently in there.

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    14 comments  ·  Marketers » Fees  ·  Flag idea as inappropriate…  ·  Admin →
    JJ COOP commented  · 

    Look at this one I've just dealt with - http://s28.postimg.org/ck1aa2r99/offers.png

    That is just a complete waste of both time and money - I've just had to immediately repost it without even bothering looking at what the bloggers are saying, as I can see I've used them all already.

    I know I get one repost for free... but it could happen again. And even if it doesnt, there is one thing that isn't free - my time. Its garbage that we're being forced into doing this - its not only wasting our time and money, but the bloggers also. So nobody gains from this (well Postjoint do in the short term as I'm wasting credits, but its hardly a long term win is it)

    JJ COOP commented  · 

    Why make us go through reports? Just automate the full system. Let us automatically kick blogs out of an offer spot and reopen it up immediately, but with the other outcome of that that blog is automatically blocked from bidding on that specific project again.

    That way we can't boot decent blogs just for the sake of it, or we'll quickly run out of blogs to post on.

    Another thing - its unfair to make us keep paying for bids from blogs we’ve already used. I done one set of 5 offers tonight and I’d used 4 of the blogs already for that project. The 5th one that was left was junk… meaning I’ve just wasted that money uploading that post. Why can’t we have an option to tick a box saying we don’t want bids from blogs we’ve used? Some people need to build unique linking domains for clients (I’ve got a bit of leeway there but only so much). No matter what someone bids on some projects, I’m not going to accept it if I’ve already used it.

    Back when the system was free, these issues content providers were having were not so major - it was just a slight hassle to post stuff again etc. But now we’re now paying real money to use this. I don’t think we’re currently getting brilliant value for it. Money wise its still okay, even if we need to repost - but if you’re going to take our money then I think you need to listen to the feedback… and right now multiple people are crying that you’re making us pay multiple times for the one thing.

    Daniel Tan - the prices aren’t that bad if the couple of obvious issues with shit offers / blogs we’ve already used is fixed. Postjoint won’t have been cheap to build in the first place, or support ongoing. If you think you’re going to get posts live for 20 cents… its not happening. Also, forget who actually pays for the credits whether its the blogger, content provider, or both. We’re the ones who pay in the end either way - charge the bloggers and they are going to add that price onto the prices they bid anyway.

    I added $1000 in credits today - but I’m not feeling like I’m getting brilliant value here as I think its a very valid request to be able to block multiple bids from one blog, and its been asked for several times. I suppose like Laura I’m going to run down the credits I have then re-evaluate whether I’m going to bother continuing at all.

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    6 comments  ·  Marketers » Offers  ·  Flag idea as inappropriate…  ·  Admin →
    JJ COOP commented  · 

    I agree with Laura and this is something I'd mentioned before on another thread. If we're now going to pay per set of 5 offers then we really need to be able to not accept offers from blogs we've used before. Or give us an option to say we'll accept offers from a blog we've only used once or twice before or whatever, on that specific project.

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    4 comments  ·  Marketers » Fees  ·  Flag idea as inappropriate…  ·  Admin →
    JJ COOP commented  · 

    I'd spoken about this with a friend and we were both agreeing it would be great, but I don't realistically see it happening any time soon. It'll be adding in another set of Paypal fees for a start. Who's going to pay those given its currently a free service?

    Its also leaving Postjoint on the hook for chargebacks or any funny business. If you're charging and making money thats fine and in most cases unavoidable... but if you're running a free website would you want to risk being on the wrong end of a $2000 chargeback? I wouldn't!

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    under review  ·  7 comments  ·  Marketers » Adding a post  ·  Flag idea as inappropriate…  ·  Admin →
    JJ COOP commented  · 

    I'd prefer it if keyword anchors in bio's stay banned. Its that type of spammy approach which is going to kill guest posting for good.

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    1 comment  ·  Bloggers » Accounts  ·  Flag idea as inappropriate…  ·  Admin →
    JJ COOP commented  · 

    Why bother? If they're your own staff members then just let them use your login...

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